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		<title>By: Gentry</title>
		<link>http://ittybiz.com/after-the-sale-the-red-headed-stepchild-of-the-marketing-industry/#comment-12815</link>
		<dc:creator>Gentry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon nailed something pretty well. My example of this is the &quot;Coke Rewards&quot; program. I sat down and did the math on this after accumulating a small fortune in &#039;Coke rewards&#039; numbers. I found out the game was totally stacked against the single person. I burned all of my &#039;Coke Rewards&#039; numbers in a big stinking pile of carefully saved cardboard after I figured this out, since I found out that all my customer loyalty was basically only worth an ITunes promo card or some other useless brain melting drivel that would cost me more time and effort than it was worth.

Now, I had a stack of these little slips of cardboard that was over 2 feet tall with the stacks rubber banded together. Do you think I&#039;m ever going to trust their nice marketing department after my little bonfire? Nope I&#039;m not. My only mistake was not filming the pyrotechnics while disparaging their program rules &amp; then posting the whole thing on youtube... But I don&#039;t roll like that, I&#039;d rather talk smack about the company when I get an opportunity to discuss the facts of their marketing down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon nailed something pretty well. My example of this is the &#8220;Coke Rewards&#8221; program. I sat down and did the math on this after accumulating a small fortune in &#8216;Coke rewards&#8217; numbers. I found out the game was totally stacked against the single person. I burned all of my &#8216;Coke Rewards&#8217; numbers in a big stinking pile of carefully saved cardboard after I figured this out, since I found out that all my customer loyalty was basically only worth an ITunes promo card or some other useless brain melting drivel that would cost me more time and effort than it was worth.</p>
<p>Now, I had a stack of these little slips of cardboard that was over 2 feet tall with the stacks rubber banded together. Do you think I&#8217;m ever going to trust their nice marketing department after my little bonfire? Nope I&#8217;m not. My only mistake was not filming the pyrotechnics while disparaging their program rules &amp; then posting the whole thing on youtube&#8230; But I don&#8217;t roll like that, I&#8217;d rather talk smack about the company when I get an opportunity to discuss the facts of their marketing down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I&#039;ve gotten to number 7.  Was it the four glasses of cheap wine?  Well, whatever - I just bought your package with consulting.  I&#039;m looking forward to your take on how to sell my stuff...  &quot;Bare Naked Honey&quot; (no, it&#039;s not X-rated, it&#039;s honey for Pete&#039;s sake!)

Gabriella</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I&#8217;ve gotten to number 7.  Was it the four glasses of cheap wine?  Well, whatever &#8211; I just bought your package with consulting.  I&#8217;m looking forward to your take on how to sell my stuff&#8230;  &#8220;Bare Naked Honey&#8221; (no, it&#8217;s not X-rated, it&#8217;s honey for Pete&#8217;s sake!)</p>
<p>Gabriella</p>
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		<title>By: @Stephen &#124; HD BizBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>@Stephen &#124; HD BizBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is great marketing, when I worked in sales at a hotel, I used to send holiday cards (all of the holidays) to my customers and the associated vendors. The vendors would rave about the hotel and generated tons of referrals.

Now I need to do this with my online customers. Thanks for the reminder!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is great marketing, when I worked in sales at a hotel, I used to send holiday cards (all of the holidays) to my customers and the associated vendors. The vendors would rave about the hotel and generated tons of referrals.</p>
<p>Now I need to do this with my online customers. Thanks for the reminder!</p>
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		<title>By: IttyBiz &#187; 5 Steps To Free Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>IttyBiz &#187; 5 Steps To Free Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] After The Sale: The Red-Headed Stepchild Of The Marketing Industry Go Big Or Suck: A Guide To Being Unforgettable Features Vs. Benefits – The Showdown Target Demographics, The Sequel Identifying Your Target Market, Or Why I Don’t Want A Monster In My Pants Marketing School, Day Two: DIY USP What Is A USP and Why Should I Care? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] After The Sale: The Red-Headed Stepchild Of The Marketing Industry Go Big Or Suck: A Guide To Being Unforgettable Features Vs. Benefits – The Showdown Target Demographics, The Sequel Identifying Your Target Market, Or Why I Don’t Want A Monster In My Pants Marketing School, Day Two: DIY USP What Is A USP and Why Should I Care? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi Dunford</title>
		<link>http://ittybiz.com/after-the-sale-the-red-headed-stepchild-of-the-marketing-industry/#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator>Naomi Dunford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 05:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we discuss why Wordpress is making me moderate MY OWN COMMENT? Why, God, why?

Anyway. Moving on.

@ Dave N - Anytime you need an ass kicking, I am your chica.

@ Shane - Stay tuned. All will be revealed.

@ Brandon - Yes. To all of it. And additionally... in a service business, the vast majority of post-sale purchases have extremely high mark-ups. When I buy phone service for thirty bucks, they don&#039;t keep a lot of it. But when I buy call forwarding for five bucks, they keep almost all. The majority of corporate overhead comes from the initial sale. The rest is gravy, and companies just stick their fingers in their ears and say &quot;LALALA&quot; and ignore it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we discuss why Wordpress is making me moderate MY OWN COMMENT? Why, God, why?</p>
<p>Anyway. Moving on.</p>
<p>@ Dave N &#8211; Anytime you need an ass kicking, I am your chica.</p>
<p>@ Shane &#8211; Stay tuned. All will be revealed.</p>
<p>@ Brandon &#8211; Yes. To all of it. And additionally&#8230; in a service business, the vast majority of post-sale purchases have extremely high mark-ups. When I buy phone service for thirty bucks, they don&#8217;t keep a lot of it. But when I buy call forwarding for five bucks, they keep almost all. The majority of corporate overhead comes from the initial sale. The rest is gravy, and companies just stick their fingers in their ears and say &#8220;LALALA&#8221; and ignore it.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi Dunford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi Dunford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Michael - That&#039;s the great thing about great friends. They believe in you and they&#039;re pleased for you and they&#039;ll go to bat for you.

@ Charlie - Thank you! I think that&#039;s the key - you have to value people. It&#039;s not just about answering the phone on the first ring or having a money-back guarantee. It&#039;s about treating your customers not just like people, but like people that you like.

@ Dave C - We have a restaurant like that here. Do you have The Keg in the states? Anyway, it&#039;s a chain of restaurants and it&#039;s on the pricey side. You can get a comparable steak for about half the price pretty much anywhere in the country but the service, at least at the one near us, is unparalleled. No matter who it is - the host, the server, the bartender, the busboy - they&#039;re all practically deferential. And I keep going back, for every special occasion, every year. (I also order the same thing every time, but that&#039;s because I&#039;m a loser with no sense of adventure.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michael &#8211; That&#8217;s the great thing about great friends. They believe in you and they&#8217;re pleased for you and they&#8217;ll go to bat for you.</p>
<p>@ Charlie &#8211; Thank you! I think that&#8217;s the key &#8211; you have to value people. It&#8217;s not just about answering the phone on the first ring or having a money-back guarantee. It&#8217;s about treating your customers not just like people, but like people that you like.</p>
<p>@ Dave C &#8211; We have a restaurant like that here. Do you have The Keg in the states? Anyway, it&#8217;s a chain of restaurants and it&#8217;s on the pricey side. You can get a comparable steak for about half the price pretty much anywhere in the country but the service, at least at the one near us, is unparalleled. No matter who it is &#8211; the host, the server, the bartender, the busboy &#8211; they&#8217;re all practically deferential. And I keep going back, for every special occasion, every year. (I also order the same thing every time, but that&#8217;s because I&#8217;m a loser with no sense of adventure.)</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually took a Marketing class last quarter, and to my surprise, this was a rather large portion of the course.  They actually have math for it too: fancy equations like, &quot;it costs you 10x as much to gain a new customer as it costs to keep an existing one&quot;.  So, the information is out there, it&#039;s just that companies are incredibly dull when it comes to understanding how to actually apply this.  

Instead of thinking how they can actually use this to their benefit, companies strategize around the question, &quot;what is the minimum amount of money and effort that we can put into old customers to retain their business&quot;, as opposed to the question that new businesses and independents think around, &quot;how can we spoil our existing customers and by doing so mobilize them as the greatest marketing team in the world?&quot;. 

Anyways, great post, it&#039;s always oddly heartwarming to hear about that kind of genuine customer service and followup marketing.  I guess I say oddly because of how jaded we can get about business and consumerism today.. but yeah, its nice to hear when people actually get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually took a Marketing class last quarter, and to my surprise, this was a rather large portion of the course.  They actually have math for it too: fancy equations like, &#8220;it costs you 10x as much to gain a new customer as it costs to keep an existing one&#8221;.  So, the information is out there, it&#8217;s just that companies are incredibly dull when it comes to understanding how to actually apply this.  </p>
<p>Instead of thinking how they can actually use this to their benefit, companies strategize around the question, &#8220;what is the minimum amount of money and effort that we can put into old customers to retain their business&#8221;, as opposed to the question that new businesses and independents think around, &#8220;how can we spoil our existing customers and by doing so mobilize them as the greatest marketing team in the world?&#8221;. </p>
<p>Anyways, great post, it&#8217;s always oddly heartwarming to hear about that kind of genuine customer service and followup marketing.  I guess I say oddly because of how jaded we can get about business and consumerism today.. but yeah, its nice to hear when people actually get it.</p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right - it is the whole long tail concept. Most of our great projects have come from past clients, either as referrals or literally more work. Most of us are in the business of referrals and can&#039;t neglect this.

Which leads to me the eternal question that no one ever answers:

what is the difference between marketing and sales?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right &#8211; it is the whole long tail concept. Most of our great projects have come from past clients, either as referrals or literally more work. Most of us are in the business of referrals and can&#8217;t neglect this.</p>
<p>Which leads to me the eternal question that no one ever answers:</p>
<p>what is the difference between marketing and sales?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Conrey &#187; Red-Headed Stepchild Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Conrey &#187; Red-Headed Stepchild Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 01:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Naomi (my muse as of late) with her post on Post-Sale Functions, or as she refers to it, the red-headed stepchild of marketing. In a few sentences, she pulls back [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Navarro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Navarro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naomi,

Thanks for the kick in the ass.  Now I&#039;m off to touch base with all my customers again :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naomi,</p>
<p>Thanks for the kick in the ass.  Now I&#8217;m off to touch base with all my customers again :-)</p>
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