Comments on: Social Media and Social Proof: On Twitter Lists, Metrics, Mammals and Marketing

By: Amy Porterfield

Amy Porterfield — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:22:42 +0000

You just rocked my world with this post. I work in the social media arena and I HATE that I care about my numbers, but I do. And you basically just reminded me that “it is what it is” and get on with it. Brilliant. (And you are so right about Chris Brogan…if we ever had “Social Media Celebrity Boxing” or something, I would pick him to jump in the ring for sure.)

Great post all the way around…as usual!

By: Jim "Genuine" Turner

Jim "Genuine" Turner — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:10:54 +0000

I completely disagree. I think both Scoble and Brogan are namby pamby whatchmacallits. ;)

By: The Point that Social Media Gurus are Missing — www.AdamDiStefano.com

The Point that Social Media Gurus are Missing — www.AdamDiStefano.com — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:32:58 +0000

[...] have to be authentic, and if we want to be successful, we need the numbers right? Even Naomi, in a recent post, talked about numbers being social proof. Her argument is that as much as we would like to not [...]

By: r4i

r4i — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:55:12 +0000

Awesome post. It doesn’t matter to me if lists ever exist or not, or if they are good or bad, if they exist then one can just use it, just the way I do it.

By: Jaybot7

Jaybot7 — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:21:12 +0000

I’m late to the party as usual, but I just had to chime in on Scoble being the biggest hypocrite. Calling Chris Brogan a namby pamby for disliking Twitter lists because they are exclusionary, while Scoble was the Number One biggest effing whining crybaby to the point of god damned annoyance (for over a month) about Not being on the Twitter Suggested Users List… it’s just ridiculous.

That’s the whole reason I stopped following Scoble.

By: Christine Livingston

Christine Livingston — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:04:18 +0000

Another great post, Naomi. I haven’t got my head round Twitter lists yet, although I kind of know I’m going to have to. As a relative newbie to the whole social media “thing” there’s so much to learn. I feel as if I could do without having to do the “admin” around lists when there’re so many more productive things to do. Is that me just not getting the point, or what??!!

By: Gwen Bell

Gwen Bell — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:14:14 +0000

Naomi, this post rocks this shizzocks & I know you know it. I’m with you – whether we love it or not, whether we want to participate in the new list function or not – we must. It’s part of the evolving culture of Twitter.

I remember being on Twitter when there were no @s & no #s and no real communication happening between users. I was a cavewoman scratching on a wall, in 140 characters. I liked it. Had I said “oh, heck no, I’m not participating in this new @ thing or that new # thing!” I’d have fallen out of step with the community. Lists will evolve the community – and the fact that tools like TweetDeck have appeared over the past few years prove the need in the community – we like being able to organize the data that comes our way.

I wrote a bit more about it on my blog today, referencing this article and thinking some about that other proof, the creative proof, which you have in spades. So creative proof + social proof = longer lasting flavor.

And my personal bottom line on lists, of any kind? Monitor, be aware of them. Don’t base your self-worth on them.

By: John Bardos - JetSetCitizen

John Bardos - JetSetCitizen — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:01:04 +0000

Interesting post.

To be honest, I didn’t even consider if lists are good or bad, they just exist. Since they exist I felt I might as well use them.

A hammer is bad if you hit someone over the head with it. It can also come in handy if you want to put nails into wood. A list is just a tool.

By: Nick Bryan

Nick Bryan — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:13:06 +0000

I too rolled my eyes somewhat when Twitter lists were unveiled. Because as if the endless worries over how many people followed me and how it related to the number of people I followed weren’t enough, another popularity contest to succeed in.

But I think you can probably get at least a respectable ratio just by tweeting normally without any special effort. Someone put me on a list named ‘Amusing’ without any prompting, which gave me a happy. And if this doesn’t work, I’ll just use all my dummy accounts to list my real one.

By: Chris Hall

Chris Hall — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:55:43 +0000

Like x2

Nothing really to add except the obligatory “great post.” For reals. :)