The 6 Types Of Blog Commentors - Do You Know Them?

Over the last week, three people have called the IttyBiz helpline — well, they emailed, but that doesn’t sound nearly as cool — asking how to increase the comments on their home business blogs. Since I have been blessed with the loudest and most prolific readers on the internet, I thought I’d take a stab at it.

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Before you can get more commentors, you need to understand why people comment. Commentors can be split into three groups. Each of these groups has two subsets. Hence the title. Get it?

The Emoter:

The Emoter comments because you provoked an emotional reaction in him, and he wants to share it. You made him spit his gin out laughing or you made his eyes get misty. You shocked him. You scared him. You surprised him. Maybe he thought, “Holy shit, that’s GENIUS!” Basically you got him out of his drone-like existence for long enough to feel genuine human emotion and he feels the need to say something about it.

The Selfless Emoter makes a comment because he wants you to know that your mission was achieved. Except in the most tragic of cases, a piece is funny because the writer wanted it to be funny, and it’s nice to hear you made someone laugh.

The Self-Centered Emoter wants to get something off his chest. This has nothing to do with you. Maybe your piece reminded him of their long deceased hamster Stinkie and he needs an outlet, or maybe he just wants his friends to know he’s smart enough to get the joke. These people are the ones who will corral you at the bus stop while you’re standing in the cold, cold rain waiting for a bus that’s already late and whip out all 28 plastic-coated, waterproof pictures of their long deceased hamster Stinkie because they assume you must be just as riveted by the rodent in question as they are. OK, maybe that one touched a nerve.

The Dissenter:

The Dissenter comments because he doesn’t agree. These can be large scale disagreements or they can be “You spelled Tim Ferriss’ name wrong”. Either way, he’s coming to say you’re wrong.

The Genuine Dissenter is doing it to either contribute to the conversation or to alert you to a mistake that might make you look like an ass. When a loyal reader lets you know you have a typo in your headline or accidentally posted a picture of your cat’s most recent hairball in place of a shot of Barack Obama, he’s not being mean, he’s trying to do you a favor. When these people disagree in the spirit of healthy discussion, it’s often because you asked for feedback or because they think that a nice, friendly debate makes everybody come out smarter at the end.

The Asshole Dissenter is commenting to either make himself look good or you look dumb. He’s disagreeing because it makes him feel cooler or smarter than you, or because he’s defending himself against a real or perceived attack. This type of commentor can often be found ripping apart what you said and referring to you as “my friend” somewhere in the comment text.

The Starfucker

The Starfucker comments because he thinks that in some way or another, you are superior to him. He is treating you like a mini-celebrity. He almost always says something nice, although it’s often tremendously bland and contributes nothing real to the conversation. There’s nothing wrong with that — it’s lovely for the ego — but when this commentor writes, “Amazing article, blah blah blah, I’ll definitely try to incorporate this into my own [blog, business, sex life]” you probably have a Starfucker on your hands.

The Worshipping Starfucker comments because he really, really likes you. He has probably read your archives back to your first entry. He loves everything you’ve ever read. He always thinks you’re right — sometimes because you really are, and sometimes just because you’re the one who wrote the piece. You can find these people by writing a completely asinine post and seeing who says nice things about it anyway.

The Upwardly Mobile Starfucker wants a piece of you. He wants you to notice him or he wants a piece of your traffic or he wants his name seen on high-traffic blogs. He might want other people to think you and he are friends. He is just as likely to disagree as agree, as he’s noticed that when he disagrees, some bloggers will comment back and address him by name. He feels that’s one more way of getting on your radar. He is also likely to be a big, fat bragger — he’ll find a way to weave in the name of his blog or a marginally relevant story of his own blog or business into the comment.

BONUS: Then there are your friends. That’s just what they are — friends — and they defy classification.

This is probably where I should add an open-ended question to encourage reader participation, but can we just pretend I did and you can insert your own?

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Reader Comments

  1. You’re SO RIGHT! Wow. Breathtaking. I LOVE YOU. This blog pwns me!

    :)

    Eric on January 17th, 2008
  2. Oh yeah, one more thing. FIRST!!!

    You can delete me.

    Eric on January 17th, 2008
  3. You can be my favorite Starfucker if you want. :-)

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  4. Commenters?

    I didn’t read the post yet, but I’m guessing there must be a spell-check/grammar nazi type, and that’s me. Or maybe it’s the I didn’t read the post, but I’m commenting type. Now to see what I am…

    Willy on January 17th, 2008
  5. Thank you Naomi! I’m THE official IB-ND groupie.

    Eric on January 17th, 2008
  6. @ Willy - I know. It kills me. Commenters isn’t a word. Commentors isn’t a word. Commentators makes me think of hockey. It’s all very upsetting. Then I realized I was thinking about it too much and had to post the damn post already.

    But I know.

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  7. A million times yes on your starfucker definition, but I think the reason a lot of people do it is that they’ve read all the posts on the “big important blogs” telling them that in order to increase their traffic they have to become involved in “the community” by leaving comments on “big important blogs” (excuse the abuse of quotation marks here, but I think they’re necessary).

    It’s gotten to the point that unless I find a blog post exceptional I don’t even bother going to the comments, because I really don’t need to see 20 of those vanilla “excellent post” type comments.

    Here’s a question to you to that end: you’re very active in your comments, making them almost like a conversation. How do you deal with posts like this? Do you acknowledge them in any way? Are they worth expending any energy?

    Carmit on January 17th, 2008
  8. fuck! i just was trying to classify myself and it looks like i’m the starfucker. thank you naomi for ruining my evening.

    michael brito on January 17th, 2008
  9. I think I sometimes fall under “The Starfucker”. Sadly.

    Do you think its wrong to comment on every post if you are subscribed to a blog?

    esvl on January 17th, 2008
  10. @ Carmit - Good question. The answer off the top of my head is that I stay involved until about the 30th comment or so. I don’t stop for any reason, just because by then the conversations amongst the commentors have generally taken on a life of their own which doesn’t include or involve me. They become their own little dynamic entities. Note James and Brett discussing their mutual love of Quebec liquor.

    @ Michael Brito - Quick lesson in starfucking… Never accuse the star of ruining your evening.

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  11. Poop.

    P.S. You forgot the ones that don’t make any sense.

    Jay F.H. on January 17th, 2008
  12. @ esvl - No, it’s not wrong at all. You probably don’t want to be the first comment every single time because then it’s kind of creepy and stalkerish. If I get off my ass and do it, I’m going to talk about that kind of thing in a post tomorrow.

    There’s been a lot of talk lately in Blogland about how to get more comments on your blog and I think that’s really important, but I think that bloggers need to realize that people have different motivations for their actions. Getting more comments for the sake of getting more comments is a pretty stupid goal. I could go onto a tech blog and say “My mom really likes cheese” and that’s a comment, but I’m guessing that’s not what the blogger had in mind.

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  13. @ Jay - I also forgot Viagra and Cialis. Next time, maybe. :-)

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  14. Soooooo, if you get a commenter/or who comments only about the other commenters/ors, what does that make him/her?

    AmyL on January 17th, 2008
  15. Dang. The part where I was ducking and running away didn’t show up in my other comment.

    -ducking and running-

    AmyL on January 17th, 2008
  16. Hmmm… I guess it would depend on the comment. I mean, if Sean Penn came and commented on my blog and everyone else told him how awesome he was, then they’d be Starfuckers. But if they told him that the whole getting-found-in-bed-with-2-Russian-chicks thing made him a Bad, Bad Man, then they’d be dissenters.

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  17. hahahahah! The Upwardly Mobile Starfucker! Awesome!

    I have a thing for the asshole dissenter type though, I don’t know.. I think they’re fun.. especially when you write a post on ‘how to build your portfolio site’ and you start with ‘you’re portfolio’ instead of ‘your portfolio’… and it ends up making the Digg frontpage. Fun :)

    Jon - FreelanceFolder on January 17th, 2008
  18. I have to think about this a bit more, as I’m finding it hard to define where to put myself in the classification… Depending on occasion I’m a bit of each of the descriptions.

    But being a friend is the one I like most.

    Jarkko Laine on January 17th, 2008
  19. Oh my God! I think I’m a Genuine Asshole Worshiping Starfucker. None of these categories are very flattering. Whatever happened to playing to your audience?

    BTW: Worshiping has one “P”

    Lol!

    Jon on January 17th, 2008
  20. Hmmm, for me I guess it depends on the discussion. Some things make me feel fuzzy inside and others make me say, “This Naomi is pretty awesome”. To be honest, when I read this I thought, “I don’t wanna be any of those!” But it’s cool, my ego can handle it. :)

    some other Naomi on January 17th, 2008
  21. @ Naomi - yeah baby, Quebec liquor…

    I admit, I flip-flop - so I guess I’m a selfless emoting worshipping starfucker… sounds like some kind of cheesy, rubber-skinned alien from Star Trek.

    Brett Legree on January 17th, 2008
  22. “you got him out of his drone-like existence for long enough to feel genuine human emotion”

    How spot on do you want to be? That’s spectacular! I had a ‘choke on coffee’ moment.

    I’m surviving the drudgery of 8 more months at the office, then I’m back to uni. Drone-like existence is a perfect 3 word summary of my life at the minute, knowing that all I’m doing killing time and upping my bank account before I start to do what I want.

    Greg Rogers on January 17th, 2008
  23. You spelt evarything wrongly and don’t use no good grammer anyway.

    I no starfuker. I better than you. All Americans better than Canadiens anyway.

    I here as object lesson. You learn from my eternal wisdom and ignore at your own peril.

    Anthony Lawrence on January 17th, 2008
  24. Count me in on that Naomi Groupie Fan Club of Ultimate Asshole Starfuckers with Genuine Friendship Tossed In To Make Us Feel Better, otherwise known as the NGFCUASGFTMUFB Club.

    Or you can just call me the Comment Whore, as I found myself dubbed yesterday (THANKS, Naomi!!)

    Forgive the linking, but this post on three ways to improve comments on your blog fits in perfectly with your post.

    I never thought about your take, though - the typical personality profile of commentators (yes, I think of hockey, too). I’ll have to ponder some more on that. Because I think there has to be 10 types. 10 is the right number for psychological studies.

    As for Quebec liquor, you’re just jealous you live in the wrong province.

  25. By the way, in all seriousness: I read you because you are damn clever and funny. I comment because your blog invites comments, because the other “commentors” are sharp and fun to read and because the whole place seems like Cheers (”where everybody knows your na-a-a-me”).

    Anthony Lawrence on January 17th, 2008
  26. Can I be Sam?

  27. This post is spot-on, especially the point about The Upwardly Mobile Starfucker. In fact, I talk about this on my own blog at–

    MattT on January 17th, 2008
  28. What about the genuinely nice folks who spend too much time locked in their home offices and just want to reach out, comment, and pretend that they have a social life?

    You know – the ones who’ll say, “I was chatting to so-and-so the other day” when they mean that they left a comment on a complete stranger’s blog or, “I went to a great gig last night” when they watched four minutes of the Red Hot Chilis on YouTube.

    Not that I’ve ever done those things, of course. Well, not often.

    Nick | PTO on January 17th, 2008
  29. @james

    Well, that’s typecasting, but I guess so.

    I’ll be Woody..

    Anthony Lawrence on January 17th, 2008
  30. According to this, I’m a self-centered starfucker, haha. That must be the reason I’ve been lurking so long. This is not a comment, I was never here, this is your imagination.

    Tanya on January 17th, 2008
  31. Because somebody whose name I won’t mention but I will mention that they write for JCME and their name begins with J, was talking shit about people who don’t respond to their own comments, I will keep responding here until the comments reach a bazillion.

    First, if we are Cheers characters, would you not think that I would get to be Sam?

    @ Jon from FF - Oooh. Good times! Was it you who told me once that my link wasn’t active and I was all, “What do you MEAN it’s not active? All the active links I see are totally active!”

    @ Jarkko - It totally switches depending on the blog. Here you’re a friend, no matter what you say. I got linked to by Queercents today and went into all out starfucking mode. I was b.e.s.i.d.e. m.y.s.e.l.f.

    @ Jon NOT from FF - Oooh… Genuine Asshole WorshipPing Starfucker. We could make t-shirts with that on them!

    @ some other Naomi - It’s not a real list, dude. You’re cool. Your comments are always welcome - nice and not snarky but not boring either.

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  32. @ Greg - Are you new? Hi! Nice to have you. I’m glad we could give you a bit of a reprieve. I filled out the little form on your website - what a great idea! So much better than a form “this page is parked.”

    @ Brett - My favorite Star Trek character is Brett Legree.

    @ Anthony - That was so refreshing! I haven’t been on Digg for a while, I was starting to miss that kind of thing. :)

    @ James - You have branding down to a goddamn science. As I was scrolling down through the comments, only your first paragraph came up, before you mentioned I called you a comment whore. And I knew it was you! Right away! Genius, man, genius.

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  33. @ Matt - That was very authentic. Almost like you’d done it befo- Wait a minute!!

    @ Nick - Thanks for the laugh. I have nothing intelligent to say, perhaps because I’ve done that. Not the YouTube thing, but the chatting thing. I tell myself this is because most of the people in my offline life wouldn’t have a damn clue what I was talking about if I explained it fully, so I just say “I was talking to…”. Then I realize they don’t know who I’m talking about and the bragging was a totally wasted effort.

    @ Tanya - Good for you! Every damn “how to blog” post tells you straight out “Thou shalt be a starfucker”. Well, maybe not straight out. But anyway, you’re just doing what you’re told. :-)

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  34. @ James - ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?????

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  35. Well today I will go on as “The Worshipping Starfucker” and say I cant wait for your post tomorrow.

    esvl on January 17th, 2008
  36. @Naomi

    Sam in drag?

    Puh-leeeze! That’s a very disturbing image, especially when combined with your colorful language.

    You many own the bar, but you can’t be Sam. I hozey. There, that settles it.

    Anthony Lawrence on January 17th, 2008
  37. MAY own… darn it!

    Anthony Lawrence on January 17th, 2008
  38. @ Naomi - why, thank you!

    Uh oh, I’m an engineer, I’m wearing a red shirt today (seriously!), and my name’s not Scotty… what’s that ominous music I hear… ack!

    He’s dead, Jim.

    Brett Legree on January 17th, 2008
  39. Ouch! Double ouch! I’m new, new, new to the pro-blog world (don’t even have my pro-blog active yet) and have commented less than a dozen times but nevertheless have managed to be each and everyone of these types. Maybe that’s what one must do when learning to fly . . . try it all.

    So to add two more “types” of commenters (in English it’s OK to make up new words by adding suffixes, the media does it all the time–so says the retired English teacher who used to make this a class assignment–i.e. find newly forming words). . .

    Virgin commenters . . .

    And another I don’t see very often but would be if I didn’t think it might be totally gauche is the authentic Inquirer. I have a ton of questions but fear that I’ll look totally stupid if I ask.

    For instance, I love IttyBiz and always save it to read last for a high or a coffee-choking moment (the requisite starfucker comment), I still wonder how I could accomplish what you achieve through irreverent, raunchy honesty. Over-the-hill, retired English teachers with 13 grandkids have to strike a certain pose, don’t you think? Or maybe not . . .
    ph

    Patricia on January 17th, 2008
  40. My gawd, Patricia, you have an image to uphold! Think of the children!

    Anthony Lawrence on January 17th, 2008
  41. @ Naomi - Who the hell is talking smack about people who don’t comment? Man, whoever it is… what a hack.

    Oh - you can be Kirstie Alley. Mmm mm. I’m sure Anthony will vouch for that.

    As for my branding? I learned from the best, toots ;)

  42. Sure, Kirstie - smarty, sassy, why not?

    Anthony Lawrence on January 17th, 2008
  43. @ Brett - You should probably go change your shirt.

    @ Patricia - The two types of commentors you mention are definitely the best kinds, although so infrequent that they didn’t make the list. Personally, I love, love, love newbie questions. They make me feel intelligent and valuable. There are certain places you can’t get away with newbie questions, but they’re much fewer and further between than most people realize. High traffic tech blogs are one because the other commentors are generally elitist snobs who delight in taking people down. This is not that place.

    To answer your question… the niche marketing potential of the retired English teacher with 13 grandkids being irreverent and raunchy is unbelievable. If that was your spin you could be wildly successful. Retired English teachers are usually boring as shit, so you’d be ahead of the pack just by showing up.

    @ Anthony - Let’s just hope her grandkids are too young to Google her name.

    @ James - Kirstie Alley when she was skinny and neurotic or when she was fat and friendly?

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  44. I refuse to accept that Kirstie was ever fat.

    It was the TV. It adds pounds.

    Anthony Lawrence on January 17th, 2008
  45. Isn’t the PC term zoftig? Or curvy? Yes, let’s go with curvy. Curves are good. Zoftig’s good too, but it makes me feel a little out of my league.

  46. I am so Diane that it is really not at all funny. Except not willowy. But otherwise, exactly.

    I severely love @Anthony’s first comment.

    @Patricia, absolutely listen to Naomi, it is the perfect niche. Plus Naomi will come by and leave comments with rude language.

    Sonia Simone on January 17th, 2008
  47. @Anthony: To paraphrase Chandler from that other NBC sitcom: “Just how many TVs was she on?”

    Nope. That doesn’t work nearly as well the original camera joke.

    Matt on January 17th, 2008
  48. (sits with a smug look on his face wondering if Naomi’s realized the value of getting into the comment section to have a party with her people…)

  49. OH WHOA, did you say “the niche marketing potential of the retired English teacher with 13 grandkids being irreverent and raunchy is unbelievable. If that was your spin you could be wildly successful”??

    It’s marketing potential part that has me curious. How’s do you see that happening for this kind of niche. Guess I’m having trouble imagining the audience (she says risking look stupid as hell)
    ph

    Patricia on January 17th, 2008
  50. @ Anthony - Sorry, dude. I’m with Matt. She was fat. By her own admission she was fat.

    @ James - Yes. Absolutely. Because you and I are the poster children for politically correct.

    @ Sonia - I only leave rude comments if you pay extra.

    @ James again - I am not even going to dignify that with a response. You are now Carla. Or Cliff. Yes. You can be Cliff.

    @ Patricia - Nobody knows the value of their niche unless their niche happens to be marketing, in which case they overvalue it. It’s because we’re all totally incapable of being objective. You just have to listen to the people who know what they’re talking about (me, Sonia) and trust that if seasoned marketers say it’s good, it’s good.

    When it comes to blogging, as I’m sure you’re aware, your success comes from other people linking to you. They don’t link in a vacuum — they need something to say. You’re the best person — you, or your marketing consultant — to give them a spin. Nobody’s going to say “HOLY CRAP! You have to read this woman’s blog! She’s a retired teacher! And she’s pretty nice! And she makes some salient points with which I often agree!” That’s not going to make the papers. The beauty of the raunchy irreverence is in the dichotomy - you’re defying expectations, which people adore and inherently want to talk about.

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  51. Naomi,

    You never cease to amaze me. I laughed, I cried. Then I was laughing AT you. You’re either a comedic genius or a magnificent moron! If you want to throw down and fight about it, my friend, I’m game. But if you just want to go with a one night thing (discreet, of course), that’s cool too. That’s just how I roll.

    It’s like I always said, I am awesome.

    That reminds me, I never had a hamster named stinkie, but I had to put my dog down over the summer. I can’t tell you how hard that was to do.

    What did I miss?

    Fiar on January 17th, 2008
  52. @ Fiar - I don’t think you missed anything. I mean, if you could have got something about payday loans or Viagra, that would have been better. But you can keep your title of Bacon of Hope.

    @ Everyone - I thought of another one! The inside joker!

    Naomi Dunford on January 17th, 2008
  53. I’m in a horrible starfucker space with Hugh Macleod right now, but it’s more like chubby groupie with acne desperately hoping for a glance from her beloved. I go to gapingvoid and try to post trenchant, clever bits (with curse words! Hugh likes a nice curse word), but I am completely beneath his notice.

    SO SAD.

    Sonia Simone on January 17th, 2008
  54. The friend: one who when you are unknown acts as if you were a star, and when you are a star acts as if you were unknown.

    See, they don’t defy categorization. ;-)

    Joshua Clanton on January 17th, 2008
  55. I, of course, am a star, since all of my friends keep acting as if I am unknown.

    Joshua Clanton on January 17th, 2008
  56. Dear GOD,Naomi. I about spit my gin when “starfucker” came out of nowhere. But I wasn’t drinking anything, so when I get off of work I’m buying some, going home, and chugging it and reading this article again.

    Once again, your ability to get past my gmail spam filters with your language continues to amaze me.

    I’m trying to come up with something witty to say, but the brainpower isn’t there.

    Dave Navarro on January 17th, 2008
  57. Shit, I think I’m an Upwardly Mobile Starfucker.

    Michael on January 17th, 2008
  58. Me, I’m slumming..

    :-)

    Anthony Lawrence on January 17th, 2008
  59. @ Michael - Damn, dude, get busy - we’re already mobile and starfucking! Join the club!

    @ Dave - Naomi has that effect. Both the spitting gin (coffee or wine in my case) and the numb brain. It’s her Kirstie Alley curves, I swear.

  60. After reading your post I feel completely indifferent. I don’t care if you visit my website or not. I just wanted to confirm that my keyboard was continuing to function properly.

    Great post. ;-)

    Kira on January 17th, 2008
  61. @ Naomi - shirt changed, now wearing gold coloured shirt (cool, I’m Kirk).

    Now to go find some Quebec liquor… hmm, must have some Maudite somewhere…

    Selfless emoting worshipping starfucker, over and out.

    Brett Legree on January 17th, 2008
  62. That’s Bacon® of Hope™.

    Thanks for the reminder. I have some unbelievable deals on phenteramine. Just shoot me an email for more info.

    Fiar on January 17th, 2008
  63. This has absolutely got to be the best post I have read so far this week.

    Hi Naomi,

    It’s nice to meet you. I dropped a comment on the post about RT. This post here is the first post I have read on your blog since the previous post about RT.

    I am hooked… you’re awesome. I think I like this place. :)

    Garry Conn on January 18th, 2008
  64. Naomi, you rock. :)
    Does this officially make me a starfucker? So be it.

    Jenn on January 18th, 2008
  65. I’m a cross between a self-centered emoter and an upwardly mobile starfucker - is that a bad thing? I feel so…dirty now.

    Lisa Smith on January 18th, 2008
  66. yes, you are by far one of my favorites, i think i may be a Worshiping SF but i am ok with that (now). you know, since YOU said it ;)

    Kate on January 18th, 2008
  67. What about the non-commentors? My blog is very focused on the community I live in, I have good blog stats but few people comment in my blog. Though I do get face to face comments when I am out and about. I have been tempted to take notes, run home, log in, and leave the comment I just received from someone at an art opening. Would that be ethical?

    D$ on January 18th, 2008
  68. @D$ This is a good question because it leads to another I have that perhaps Naomi or another reader could speak to.

    First, the same thing happens to me on my personal blog. My friends and family comment in email and face to face but rarely comment on the blog which would be great to get communication going among these people. I too want to run home and type in their comments because I want others to hear and speak to what is coming up related to the posts.

    Now the question related to an IttyBiz. My business is very local and expanding outside of the area is not something I want or need to do and yet I want to create a professional blog related to my business. Does anyone have comments/suggestions about the nature of a blog for a business with a regional focus and clientèle. What differences, if any, do you see in how such a blog is developed? Or can you direct to discussion addressing this question?
    ph

    Patricia on January 18th, 2008
  69. @ D$ - You’ll gain some great insight from reading my recent Copyblogger guest post on one simple way to generate more comments on your blog. Also, read through the comments for that post, as there’s a wealth of information there as well.

    @ Patricia - Okay, sorry, hon, but I can’t believe you just said that expanding your business is not something you want or need to do. Do you want a growing, thriving business? Expand. Can your services be used by others? Expand. Why limit yourself with local business only when the Internet opens up a world? If you have a specific service or business you can only offer locally, expand your services to fulfill demand and need worldwide. Ambition, girl, ambition!

    For your blogging question - there would be no difference between a local blog and an international-scale blog, in my opinion. Why would they be different? A blog provides content and advice or insight that everyone wants to know about. Why, as a Canadian, would I not be interested in your blog for your business located in Japan, for example? Could I not learn or better my business just because I’m not living in your town?

  70. @Patricia

    I’m going to disagree with James. I see nothing wrong with NOT wanting to expand. I’ve been there: I had four employees once (five counting myself) and I’m happier as the one person firm I am now. I do NOT want to grow.

    I also disagree on the positioning of a local blog and an international blog. I think there is a difference, though I do understand James’ point also. Nevertheless, there may be reasons you want to keep it “local”. I do that myself to some extent: I don’t want to travel any more. I’ve had people offer amazing incentives to hop on a jet and come see them, but I just am not interested, period. If you have similar limitations (self imposed or otherwise), I think you just need to make that plain and out front. Other than that, James is right: the rest is going to be the same.

    Anthony Lawrence on January 18th, 2008
  71. @James. Hey thanks for the direct hit. I’m definitely conflicted about being ambitious AND about expanding. It’s not hard to expand from my current status of 3 clients (all of whom are also friends or family), so YES, I want to expand. I’ve only been in business 5 weeks and don’t even have my website active yet. It’s in design.

    This is a business I’m starting to supplement my retirement earnings and because it’s FUN. I don’t want it to take over my life which is busy with lots of other fun things. But since I typically get obsessed with all new ideas, I’ve been awake since 3am tweaking on my web page design, reading blogs, answering email, and finalizing a proposal for 1 of my 3 clients :) I’m sure to be dead on my feet when my sweetheart returns from work at 5pm . . .

    And therein lies the rub. . . How to keep it simple and manageable AND fun and YES exciting and dare I say global as well as local???
    ph

    Patricia on January 18th, 2008
  72. @DS - I smell a follow-up post entitled, “The 6 Types Of Non-Commenters”. I expect The Lurker, The Technologically Inept, and The Read Past The First Paragraph will all feature. But what of the remaining three?

    @Patricia - Once you get online, it’s almost impossible to control where your audience comes from anyway. I’m based in the UK, but most of my blog’s audience is are American or Canadian (UK is 3rd). I embrace them all! I’ve ‘met’ so many people already through the blog; just put yourself out there, and see what happens! And don’t forget - you can always say no to the opportunities you’re not interested in.

    The same goes for my web design and development work — I now get more word-of-mouth referrals from abroad than I do from the UK. I haven’t met over half my clients face-to-face and often have more work than I can take on. Get launched first; create great content; have fun; then worry about all the global traffic and lovely emails — it’s a great problem to have!

    Nick | PTO on January 18th, 2008
  73. @ Anthony, I think your needs with regard to doing business parallel mine.
    I’m still curious about the differences that might be inherent in developing and maintaining a more regional blog community. For instance, I’m thinking about how one might get local customers checking in and coming back. Yes, I know it’s not all that different and this stuff is discussed in a lot of places, but I still suspect there are subtleties one might need to learn and focus on.
    ph

    Patricia on January 18th, 2008
  74. @ Patricia - Uh, okay, you and I both have the same problem. I think it’s called the Shiny New Toy Syndrome, classic symptoms being anything new, cool and fun gets undivided attention, no meals, and limited pee breaks. When boredom sets in, we’re miserable.

    Hence, I do not recommend starting a business :) Because, unfortunately, I think you’ll love every second of it. The fact that you fear the business taking over your life demonstrates that you can already see that potential to be sucked in to SNT Syndrome… which also shows that you know just how much you’ll enjoy it.

    @ Anthony - Yes. I agree with you. (I’m allowed to change my mind.) In the past couple of years, I have quit my business multiple times (which makes Harry flip out and panic to soothe my overwhelmed nerves) and we’ve had many renovations to downsides after unconsciously expanding. There is nothing wrong with not wanting expansion or growth.

    The good thing is, each time this happens, we both target more what we want to do and how to achieve it and better both our business and ourselves. Our methodology improves and we do more and more of what we want to do - only better.

  75. Dammit James, we cannot have agreement.

    Every good story needs dissent - antagonists, protagonists. We need tension, excitement, drama..

    If you are going to flip over like that, well, I just don’t know what I will do. But whatever it is, it won’t be pretty..

    Anthony Lawrence on January 18th, 2008
  76. @Patricia

    Subtleties.. heck, I’m about as subtle as a rock up aside the head..

    If you are advertising, you CAN focus it regionally - Google Adwords lets you do that, for example.

    Before the Internet let me work wherever without traveling, I used to prominently put “New England” in titles and tags. If I had wanted to be more focused, I would have peppered everything with Boston (ayup, I have a “Boston accent”).

    Does that help?

    Anthony Lawrence on January 18th, 2008
  77. @James GAWD I hate being so transparent! If it weren’t for your comments to Anthony that followed the one to me, I’d go drown myself in the cat’s water dish.

    So, it’s OK to light up like a bonfire, fizzle to an ember, and then rekindle to a toasty warm glow. Is that right?
    ph

    Patricia on January 18th, 2008
  78. “So, it’s OK to light up like a bonfire, fizzle to an ember, and then rekindle to a toasty warm glow. Is that right?”

    It’s ok with us :-)

    Anthony Lawrence on January 18th, 2008
  79. @ Patricia - Transparency is so “in” these days. You’re cool. You’re with it.

    For blog fires, I don’t recommend tossing the gas and the match on a day where you’re on dialup or unavailable to respond to comments. But sure, go ahead… marshmallows anyone?

    @ Anthony - I tried SEO for Olympic Snow Shoveler for a while… no bites.

    Oh… disagreement, right. Stirring conversation that evokes emotions and sets Naomi’s blog on fire… uh… well… uh… Oh! Quebec hockey players are the best in the world!!

  80. You gave me gas.
    lol.
    No really, what you said made sense to me.
    ….
    Dear God, I think I want to have your babies…

    Michael Allen on January 18th, 2008
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  84. Wow! You’re absolutely right! I totally agree and will assimulate that into my blogging life ASAP.

    (I am an upwardily mobile worshiping starfucker wannabe. Yes, my life is so not full.)

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